Haid und Neu

1870's

This is a 'Haid & Neu' Sewing machine, manufactured in Germany, in the Mid 1870's.


Dating, condition, size, & other info is at the bottom of this page.

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'Before' Pictures shown are usually the sellers' Ebay pics, but some may be mine (in process).

Sold in November 2019


This one is Gorgeous, & I love those FEET (Individual claws on each toe), as well as the overall appearance.

This is by far the best casting I've ever seen, & I nearly kept this one for myself.


Here's the bobbin winder in action. Note how the gear to engage the winder is always there, but when the bobbin is inserted into it's slot, it pushes that gear into the teeth of the main drive wheel gear, so you can sew & wind bobbins at the same time.

Very clever. : )

Dimensions for the Boat Shuttle:

58mm Long, (or 5.8cm, or 2.28") x

13mm wide across the center top (or 0.5").

Dimensions for the Long Bobbin:

38 mm tip - tip of points.

I give dimensions in metric because this is a German machine, & the screws were metric.

NOTES:

The center point of the 'bow' of the boat shuttle is off center - aiming away from the hole side.

Not straight on the slotted side, but straight-er.

The 1st side view is accurate - it does have a slight ark to the top - because it fits into a slot as it travels from a center arm, turning in a wide arc.

Below - Find detailed Threading directions -

This is a 'Haid & Neu' Sewing machine, manufactured in Germany, in the Mid 1870's.

It has a hand crank, & the slot to allow for a belt drive with treadle, or motor.


Dating: After much research, I found: Starting in 1861, the founders of "Haid und Neu" used machines from "Grover & Baker" as models. This is clearly a clone of the G&B "Prima #10" model. (Although this H&N has a much more detailed casting for the base - Look at those Toes! Even the claws can be seen on each toe! It's a prettier overall appearance, too - in my opinion).


The sewing plate is stamped 75645, which dates it to about 1875. Haid & Neu stamped their machines as they were manufactured, starting with 1, then 2, etc, until this machine was made, as their 75,645-th machine, coming off the line somewhere in the mid-1870's. They had hit 100,000 by 1880, so we know it was well before 1880, and since the company merged & changed names in 1882, we also can be sure it was made prior to 1882, because it is also stamped with the Haid & Neu logo.

(Just as a time reference: ... Lincoln Dies & the Civil War ended in 1865, so about 10 yrs later. )


Details: This particular Sewing Machine is most likely a "Humboldt", named after the great German explorer, & intellectual, Alexander von Humboldt. A seriously impressive man, who made great contributions to the world's knowledge in many fields, & well deserved the respect of naming their prized machine after him.


Condition: This machine came to me with some rust, a broken off handle, & a crack in the back of the base - which I repaired. It's now difficult to even find. (I ground out slots for the 2-part epoxy, & used hand braided wire as a kind of rebar, to ensure it never comes apart again. I further allowed this machine to sit for well over a month after finishing it, just to be sure my repair would hold. It has.) It's now very hard to find the place where the crack was - inside, in particular. On the exterior, it appears as a hair line, because I did not want to glob on a bunch of epoxy where it would show, so all repair work was done on the interior surface.

All gears are in perfect condition, clean, & turn, easily. Needle travels as intended, & the feed dogs work as intended. She has her Needle, but no Boat Shuttle & Bobbin. (I have a similar machine (Johann Hammer), & tried that shuttle & bobbin in this machine, to see if it worked, & it did. If you can find a similar boat shuttle & bobbin, it should work.)

( See pics & dimensions for the Boat shuttle & long bobbin at the bottom, to aid in finding a match. )


*** Any item of this age is going to show nicks & dings, as well as some pitting, which can be seen in the photos.


Measurements (approximate):

* 15" Wide Base (+ 2" for the hand crank knob).

* 10.5" Deep at the Base

* 11" Tall (Including the needle bar & Thread spool pin).

* Hand crank wheel is 7" across.

This one is Gorgeous, & I love those FEET, as well as the overall appearance.

This is by far the best casting I've ever seen, & I nearly kept this one for myself.


SOLD in November 2019